Hi everyone, I am new here....I have read some great stuff in here! I am also slowly compiling a Split Enz/Neil Finn, Finn Brothers collection since I got hooked a few weeks ago. However, I am having difficulty finding the first Finn Brothers....anyone know the reason why it is out of print? Take care from frosty Canada!

It's only out of print in some places - It's in print in Europe, Australia and New Zealand. I could have sworn I saw a copy in Virgin in Vancouver, BC - So it might be in print in Canada. Either way, it's easy to find online - Try http://www.smokecds.co.nz

Welcome renns

Hope you find Finn

I bought Finn here in Canada within the past couple of years, but looking at the online stores (amazon.ca, chapters, mymusic) it does appear to be out of circulation now. If you can't find it used, it's pretty inexpensive to purchase it from overseas these days. Some CDs I've bought from Amazon.co.uk have been barely more than domestic prices even when you factor in shipping. If you only buy one CD, it usually slips through customs without any GST and duty added.

I saw quite a few copies of 'Finn' at JB HI-FI in Adelaide so you should be able to get one from an online store.

Yeah, ditto... it seems relatively easy to get hold of in the UK too.

s'funny, The Finn album always reminds me of the beatles "White album"

i have a cassette by the door that has "Finn" on one side and TWT on the other.

i've been rocking that on every car trip exceeding 10 minutes in duration since 1999.

those two just never get old for me.

i cannot fathom why they are both out of print.

well there's no accounting for the inept thinking of record companies, especially as they seem to bend over backwards for other artists that are basically rubbish.

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Originally posted by lee rutle:
well there's no accounting for the inept thinking of record companies, especially as they seem to bend over backwards for other artists that are basically rubbish.

It's a business Lee - and with any business the goal is to make the most money in the shortest amount of time. The music business is a spectacularly weird one in that you're working with people's attention spans, and record companies have to ration out their marketing budgets according to who can get the public's attention most in a short space of time.

People like things that are new and shiny, which is something that often works against older or more established artists. Combine that with my theory that secretly everyone just wants to back a winner, even music fans. How else do you whittle down the amount of choice in music? I think that's the main reason a music fan will get behind an act underneath it all

They're going to be the next big thing \ we want to have been there first \ backed a winner \ they're obscure and cool and want to be the first to introduce them to our friends \ put them on a mix tape first.

And I think that's why better records by older artists often get much less attention from everybody than crap ones by newer artists. "Everyone Is Here" had potentially the same audience as those who bought James "rhymes with" Blunt, but no one took to it. I'm not even suggesting for a second that the Finns are dull or bland like that pile of steaming poop - I'm just using it to illustrate a point. I think it's just an unwritten rule sadly - Older artists with better records sell less than newer ones with crap, unless...

They've been your favourite artist for years. You're a loyal fan, and they've given you so much musical pleasure that they're in the pantheon of automatically getting the support. Like the Finns to many of us here

or they're getting the elusive "critical re-evaluation", some music writers have sat down and said "Actually, this act's musical output is great - Hey everybody, they're cool now!". In that case, everyone jumps on because they want to make out that they've been a fan for years. Also known as Johnny Cash syndrome (to me anyway).

Add into the mix that ironically the music business does not make it's money from the core music fans, and it goes a long way to explain the "inept thinking". Music is seen as a commodity by most people, not as an art.

In reality, there's two music industries - The one where music is made by people for the love of making music, and bought by people for the love of listening to it, and then there's the commodity music industry, made by people for money\fame\ego, and bought by people for entertainment. Where the issue is, is that those worlds are getting pushed further apart.

And I think I have my thesis done

yep I know all that

doesn't make it right though

iarla.great topic,beats my postings all "Stuff and nonsence" really!

It was on sale for just a fiver in Fopp over xmas

renns--got my copy at cd plus in madison square (admittedly a few years ago)

try *into the music* as well...they're very helpful.

My local JB Hifi had a copy of this album for $9.99 last night.

I admit I'm not certain, but I think it's still available over here in the UK, it was on midprice when I last saw it (along with the Crowdies back catalogue). I don't know about the rest of the world, but over here they were billed simply as Finn and not the Finn Brothers for the first album.

My copy of the first album, which I would've bought as soon as it came out, is just called Finn. They changed it later didn't they? Not sure if that was just in certain places or everywhere.

If I remember correctly, there was a complaint from a band named Fin who feared people would be mislead and buy a "wrong" album. So Finn was changed in The Finn Brothers, and I guess this was done everywhere.

Yeah, come to think of it, it was changed later over here too.

Mine's called Finn.