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Originally posted by Camus:
Famous People is one of the original mixes isn't it? Like Semi Detached the multi track is missing and it couldn't be remixed?

The multi-track was missing and a completely different take was found and mixed for the re-issue. Since then the missing tape has been located.

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The multi-track was missing and a completely different take was found and mixed for the re-issue. Since then the missing tape has been located.

You're talking about the remastered Frenzy now rather than Luton aren't you? I meant the Luton version of Famous People on the second disc of Luton.

The alternative take of Famous People is miles ahead of the original Frenzy Mix. Is the original take as bare as the original mix, or was a lot mixed out originally?

I guess it was fortuitous that the tape was missing at the time as we got to hear a completely different take. If only the multitrack for Semi Detached was still around. It's so noticeable on Luton that it's the original mix.

Whoops, sorry, you're right. I got my albums mixed up.

The final LUTONS from the recent orders have been boxed and some mailed, we took the rest down today BUT.....there is a mail strike in Australia (a sorters strike)- I think it will only be a few days.... so as soon as that is over the rest go out... sorry this one is out of my hands....!! (:
Gryph

so no mail coming in or going out at the moment.

I've been trying to work out how the Rootin Tootin tapes compare to those that have previously been released.

Numerous tracks have cropped up over the years on compilations (band and various artist efforts) as well as, of course, the US Frenzy.

However, the remastering/remixing shenanigans have left me a little confused. I'd attempt a summary of what has appeared and in what form but, truth be told, I'm a relative newbie to the world of Enz and am not convinced I'd do justice to such a task.

Anyone fancy outlining what appears where and how it all relates to Rootin Tootin? For example, Hermit McDermitt appeared on single, on Spellbound (I think) and on Rootin but with different timings... are these different takes or simply different mixes of the same master?

And the three bonus tracks on the remastered Frenzy: are they repeated on Rootin Tootin or were they given a new mix?

Etc.

I have nothing important to say but I finally got my Luton discs last night!

I was glad to see (hear) a lack of complicated elaborations added to the songs, like with some of the song versions on Spellbound.

Really like the Luton version of Late In Rome... and Straight Talk is great!

only Semi-Detached and Carried Away are from Luton, but they are the same recordings

Well, here's some more thoughts I've had...

I know that Frenzy was released and all, but I wonder if releasing only disc 1 to the general public is a mistake. I think disc 2, musically, is better. (Comments?)

Secondly... holy smokes, "Next Exit" and "So This Is Love" are depressing. One about suicide, and the other about being constantly shot down by love. Pretty angsty.

I could drag out my copy of my Split Enz book, but I'm wondering about the recording history behind "So This Is Love". I thought that it was never recorded in the studio. Most of the lyrics are sung by Tim, except for one verse sung by Phil. Was that the original recording, or is what we have here a combination of two separate vocal tracks?

So This Is Love and I'm So Up are both from BBC recordings, included as bonus tracks rather than actual tracks from Luton.

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Originally posted by Chris Camfield:
I know that Frenzy was released and all, but I wonder if releasing only disc 1 to the general public is a mistake. I think disc 2, musically, is better. (Comments?)

Secondly... holy smokes, "Next Exit" and "So This Is Love" are depressing. One about suicide, and the other about being constantly shot down by love. Pretty angsty.

First point: I actually agree. Disc 2 is wonderful. Second point: I always saw Next Exit as a (wonderfully) cheesy song about a relationship breaking up, nothing more. Maybe I completely misread that one.

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Originally posted by Paul H:
Second point: I always saw Next Exit as a
(wonderfully) cheesy song about a relationship breaking up, nothing more. Maybe I completely misread that one.

I have to dig out my boxed set and listen to the version from that. I think the lyrics are a bit different.

The Luton version, as Vortex very helpfully transcribed, includes the line "I might just do away with myself". That really changes my perspective on the song.

I'm not quite sure what the green-eyed monster verse is about. Persuaded of what?

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