From Tim's MySpace page :

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Just letting you all know there's a rarities CD on its way....available to purchase this or next week here at Myspace.....a great Throw Your Arms Around Me with Neil,recorded around Woodface days...other odds and bits...I SEe Red with Australian band regurgitator.. interesting and special...live tracks from the last US tour,incl the reworked Shark Attack....some unreworked demos....liner notes will explain....a real typwritten recycled handmade artifact....strictly one for the fans...otherwise things are good....riding out the winter....

Not exactly packed full of rarities is it? I think I already own most of these songs and live versions aren't exactly what I consider "rarities". The only item here that's legitimately special seems to be the Woodface era studio version of "Throw Your Arms Around Me". I don't think I'm familiar with "White Cloud Black Shadow" or "Pulled it all Down". Anyone know the history on these?

Tracklist

I See Red
Shark Attack
Pulled it all Down
Rock 'n' Roll Girl
White Cloud, Black Shadow
Cruel Black Crow
Throw Your Arms Around Me
Salt To The Sea

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Originally posted by Paināporo:
I don't think I'm familiar with "White Cloud Black Shadow" or "Pulled it all Down". Anyone know the history on these?

'White Cloud Black Shadow': from Tim's 2002 musical 'Feedback'.

'Pulled It All Down': a song he wrote and recorded in honour of the many Victorian-era theatres demolished in NZ over the years.

I love the artwork...

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Originally posted by Paināporo:
Not exactly packed full of rarities is it?

Tim may just disagree

TIM IS WRONG. If fans know all the words, then it's not a rarity.

Of course, I'm a big enough man to admit I could be the wrong one on that. After all, one man's rarity is another man's obscurity, which should be obvious to anyone.

It goes without saying, but it bears repeating.

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Originally posted by CH Trader:

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Originally posted by Paināporo:
Not exactly packed full of rarities is it?

Tim may just disagree

Well I question the sincerity of anyone who thinks an 8 song CD containing only 5 studio tracks is "packed full" of rarities. Maybe there are too many copyright issues between Tim and all his old record labels but it would've been nice to see a couple more tracks. Especially since this CD is getting a more proper release instead of being a one off for the fan club.

Well maybe it's been put together to sell as merch on his upcoming US tour...

I for one am curious, am glad to see it released, and have duly ordered a copy

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Originally posted by Paināporo:
Well I question the sincerity of anyone who thinks an 8 song CD containing only 5 studio tracks is "packed full" of rarities.

Where does it say "packed full of rarities" other than your inital post? You make it sound like it's been built up as something it's not.

It's described on the Frenz mail out as Tim Finn-Rarities, Demos, Live Performances VOL.1, which I believe it is.

On the myspace it just says Rarities - other odds and bits/some unreworked demos/live tracks reworked.....strictly one for the fans.

Apparently not you.

Well I still purchased it I'm just, you know, a grumpy kind of guy.

I've never heard OF, let alone heard, four of the tracks, and one is much sought-after (by me at least), so I'm not complaining.

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Originally posted by Paināporo:
Well I still purchased it I'm just, you know, a grumpy kind of guy.

You might like to know that, although not mentioned anywhere on the item itself, there's a surprise addition at the end of Salt to the Sea ... kinda like a bonus track without the huge gap ... of The Coca Cola Jingle.

I think it's a great collection and certainly hope that the vol. 1 means it's the first of many

Well, there you go...if it's got the Coca Cola jingle on it, it's gotta be a keeper .

I'd been wavering about whether or not to get this. Tim sort of lost me with Imaginary Kingdom. I know the majority of people here love it, but I just don't like it at all. So, I'd sort of pretty much decided not to get the rarities CD.

And then, mummakook, you mentioned that the Coca Cola jingle is on there. I don't know why, but that tidbit of information pushed me over the edge. *laughs* So I ordered a copy from his myspace site. For $10, you really can't go wrong. That's a very fair price for a thing like this, considering how short it is.

OHHHHHH MIGOD

I don't wanna go where there's no Coca-Cola.

"White Cloud Black Shadow" is particularly lovely - a very gentle demo, reminescent of "Winter Light" in atmosphere. Love the line "white cloud casts a black shadow on a green hill".
"Pulled It All Down" - I remember reading about this at the time Tim sang it to a bunch of city counsellors as a protest to the proposed demolition of an old theatre in Devonport. I think he said that he wrote it the day before the submission - it sounds like it but still quite catchy of course
"Throw Your Arms" sounds more produced than the other Woodface Demos and is very much a Tim lead vocal with Neil in the background. Very nice to have a studio version of this (unless you also count Neil's radio version on the "Acoustic" CD)
Of the other tracks, the two live versions are excellent, and the Coca Cola jingle an unexpected bonus. "Cruel Black Crow" (which I've always taken to be about depression)and "Rock 'n' Roll Girl" of course have been around for some time and are both essential Tim tracks that deserve a wider audience. Both tracks sound remastered. "I See Red" has also been remastered and sounds LOUD.

It's great to see Tim putting these bits and pieces out. Interesting choices for the first CD. For future releases, I'd love to see the remaining "Les Patterson" tracks get a proper CD release and there's the vinyl B-sides from "Escapade" as well. I also read recently of something called "The Tunnel" recorded at the "Tim Finn" sesssions - could you dig that one out Tim? And then there's the recent MySpace tracks - the list goes on and on

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Originally posted by brownie:
I'd been wavering about whether or not to get this. Tim sort of lost me with Imaginary Kingdom. I know the majority of people here love it, but I just don't like it at all. So, I'd sort of pretty much decided not to get the rarities CD.

And then, mummakook, you mentioned that the Coca Cola jingle is on there. I don't know why, but that tidbit of information pushed me over the edge. *laughs* So I ordered a copy from his myspace site. For $10, you really can't go wrong. That's a very fair price for a thing like this, considering how short it is.

Glad I was able to persuade you, brownie I don't think you'll be disappointed. As you'll glean from David's review, it's not all new stuff anyway, so even if the newer stuff is less to your liking there should be something of interest there. Hard to go wrong at the price anyway!

For my part I'm particularly happy to have things like Pulled it all Down, which haven't been seen before, but it's also good to have crisper versions of things like the Coca Cola jingle. Looking forward to what might turn up on volume 2, and beyond!

Desperate to get this - paypal is a pain to register for so it seems though, so I hope stocks won't go quickly.

I'm pleased to have Cruel Black Crow on CD after all this time.

Maybe this first set is fairly short in order to test the water - see if there's a lot of demand for his rarities before rolling out the more obscure stuff? It'll be great to see how regularly he's going to put these things out - if there's seemingly no record label involved in the pressing etc (albeit probably in the background sorting licencing etc), he could in theory put one out every couple of months (he must have an absolute *mountain* of stuff recorded that's never seen the light of day).